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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 04:45:50 PM »
W/N's disagreeing = rejection. There is no Agreeing to Disagree in the Land of Narcissism. Oh you just gave me something to add to my list of How to Exposing N Vamps, just disagree w/them and prepare for the fight of your life, because to a N not accepting their viewpoint means not accepting them--this is why they take it so very personal and discussions always turn into vicious wars, where winner takes all. WoW, another piece of the puzzle, thanks CZ! =msn happy=

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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2010, 08:45:13 PM »
  W/N's disagreeing = rejection. There is no Agreeing to Disagree in the Land of Narcissism. Oh you just gave me something to add to my list of How to Exposing N Vamps, just disagree w/them and prepare for the fight of your life, because to a N not accepting their viewpoint means not accepting them--this is why they take it so very personal and discussions always turn into vicious wars, where winner takes all. WoW, another piece of the puzzle, thanks CZ! 
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This was the defining piece of the puzzle for me!   Who wouda thunk that having an opinion that differed could result in D&D ?*@?

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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2010, 12:34:24 AM »
Since I was born into the Land of Narcissism, the only thing that I was stunned about was that normal people don't interact this way? Really, we can just Agree to Disagree and everyone can be totally okay with that? In the Land of Narcissism there are only winners or losers, and a discussion which has turned into an argument which has escalated into a full blown fight never ends unless someone admits defeat by claiming to the victor; Yes, you're right and I was wrong.

I remember a moment back in college when my boyfriend (now husband) & I started an innocent discussion on where we should hang a particular painting. The discussion, went to an argument and escalated to a full blown attack w/me degrading his talent and questioning his ability to be a successful designer in the future. =msn shocked= Why he didn't leave that night amazes me. I was his biggest fan & supporter up until that moment and just because he disagreed w/me, in an instant it was WW3. I don't know what came over me. I never acted like that the 3 previous years we were together. At the time we wrote it off as extreme PMS, but looking back I now know it was Learned Behavior triggered by the fact that we were setting up house. In the Land of Narcissism equality between two people does not exist. A house has room for only one ruler, either rule or be ruled. You either show dominance or be dominated. Been there, done that, not going to do that again.  In the Land of Narcissism the Nparents constantly fought w/each other. I knew I wanted the opposite of that relationship, so if they fought all the time, then if I found my soul mate it would mean that we would have to never fight & agree all the time, even on the small stuff, like the placement of a painting on a wall. If we agreed about everything, surely that was the sign that we were meant to be together. If Nparents fought all the time and finally got a divorce, the opposite of that, the Ideal Love, Real Love, True Love meant always agreeing with one another. I was also in my early 20's, so that could have had played apart too. Even with the Young Love-Ideal Love way of thinking, a normal person would conclude okay he disagrees w/me so I guess we are not soul mates end of conversation, but not me. Rejecting my opinion meant rejecting me and I took it very personal that night and went for the attack. I didn't even have to think about it, one ugly statement after another until I badly hurt the one person who truly loved me. Wow, I was raised to be a N! My H refers to this night as the night I was possessed by an evil demon. Now we know the evil demon has a name N Vamp Mom. I was coping what Nparents did to one another w/out thinking. So what stopped me from becoming a full blown card carrying N? It was the extreme hurt I saw in my best friends/boyfriends eyes, knowing that I was the cause of his pain, that painful truth convicted me in that very moment. You know I can't even remember what that darn painting was a picture of, I will have to ask H if he remembers. All I remember is the pain I placed in his eyes and that I never want to do that again to my best friend. Thank you God for the Spirit of Conviction--it is such a blessing and saved our relationship. That weekend we promised one another that we would not let things get out of control and that it is okay to Agree to Disagree. And of course what happens when you have learned something new. . . another test.

While at an Italian ice cream shoppe we discussed which ice cream flavor we were going to choose to romantically share together. He wanted plain vanilla and I wanted chocolate w/something else added to it, almonds, brownie (I can't remember). If I went w/his choice, that meant I had to give up what I wanted and if we went w/my choice that meant he had to give up something he wanted. His choice wasn't hurting anyone, so why did I get so defensive? I had to give up things my whole life, so I wasn't going to lose the Battle of Ice Creams. Before I knew it, I found myself saying plain vanilla is a boring choice, only boring people pick plain vanilla, and you're not a boring person sweetheart, so lets go w/a flavor that is more enjoyable and interesting, like (my choice). Well, this discussion turned into an argument thanks to my judgmental comments. When my H repeated back to me what I had just said, it convicted me. I was once again judging his choice & opinion and just because it was different than mind it didn't mean that it was automatically wrong and that I should diminish, devalue, and disrespect it. I was humbled by his honesty on how I made him feel by judging his choice. I was remorseful and determined to change and not do this again. Sure we could have gone w/his choice, or my choice, or choose the option neither of us considered, where the both of us benefit, which is to compromise and have Chocolate & Vanilla. We discovered that day The Art of Compromising and that Chocolate & Vanilla are better together than they ever were apart. Sometimes there are no right or wrong choices/answers. Sometimes it's just about Chocolate or Vanilla. To this day, if H and I have a disagreement we will ask one another, Is this a Chocolate or Vanilla discussion? When at all possible we go for the combo. We also agree that the choices we come up w/are just suggestions that we each get to decide on, neither of us own a certain choice, it is just an option and if the option that a certain person just happened to came up w/doesn't get selected, then it doesn't mean that it is a rejection of that person, because it is only an option and nothing more. The world will not come to an end, and we wont spontaneously explode if the option we came up w/doesn't get selected. Now we don't spend our energy on defending a certain option, instead we challenge ourselves to make sure that we have discovered all the possible options. We don't decide what is best for him, or what is best for me. We don't even limit ourselves to keeping track & taking turns. We don't decide well last time we went w/your choice, so this time we have to go with mine. We decide what is best for us. What will benefit us the most. =msn wink=

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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 03:04:47 PM »
oops! I will have to play this game later..the first car that popped in my head was N's car, but I think that is because I have been watching for it a lot because I do "not" want to run into him at a store or someplace like that (small town syndrome)

Plus I just dreamed about it (looking for it) right when I woke up, so it is still on my mind.


I like this forum! Not all whiny and sorrowful and complaining. I needed this!



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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2010, 11:03:42 AM »
I think maybe after viewing this link, I had a dream that Lucifer gave me a "new" car. Mine is ten years old and I bought it used to replace a car I owned before we married after mine was destroyed in a wreck..the insurance paid for it, not him.

It was a Chevrolet station-waggy kind of thing...halfway between that and a mini-van. NOT at all what I would want and it was an ugly blue and it didn't look new...it looked faded and dirty. I kept asking him and it turned out it was a car that his son in Vermont was trying to sell, and he sent the son a LOT of money without even asking me...(and then pretended like he was being so nice and wonderful to buy me a brand new car...what a liar. AGAIN)

I know this all relates to a dream and not the car that first popped into my head, but I think I dreamed about after reading here early this morning. I was NOT happy about any of it in my dream. Just like I am not happy about any of it in my life.'


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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2010, 04:02:37 PM »
Legs the car that Lucifer gave you in your dream was in poor condition, yet he wanted you to adore him for this junker. Do you think the car is how he thought of you and the marriage? Too bad he didn't appreciate the Lamborghini he had when he married you. =msn wink=

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Re: Fun Game!
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2010, 04:20:20 PM »
LettingGo,

 Totally! I think it meant that :

A. he was lying
B. he was lying
C. he was lying

<sigh> I do hope that somehow, under all his anger and making up lies about me, he will be able someday to realize that I was THE best thing he ever had. Dumb@$$. I am not holding my breath. I think he has made me to be absolutely the bad person in this whole thing.....it's so weird how they rationalize things and blame shift.

Weird and removed from reality. I guess they have their own reality that I don't understand and never will BECAUSE IT'S NOT REAL!!!!

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