Please login or register.
Login with username, password and session length

WoN Forum

May 22, 2012, 06:07:20 AM
collapse

* Narcissistic Personality Disorder


* All About WoN


* New! On WoN Blogs


* The WoN Connection


* NPD and the DSM-5


* Recent  Forum Topics

personal responsibility by alatariel
[Today at 05:42:57 AM]


Re: Mysticism and the N by alatariel
[Today at 05:09:19 AM]


Re: I can't stop crying by Never again
[Today at 03:07:39 AM]


Re: Mysticism and the N by Millies Student
[Today at 02:44:23 AM]


Re: Mysticism and the N by JennyWren
[Today at 12:43:02 AM]


* All About You

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

* Shoutbox

Refresh History
  • Chime: Happy Beautiful Mother's Day!!!
    May 13, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
  • Chime: Happy May Day!
    May 01, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
  • Chime: Happy Holidays!!
    April 08, 2012, 09:32:48 AM
  • CZBZ: Hi sparkle! So nice to hear from you!
    March 28, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
  • Chime: Hello back!
    March 26, 2012, 01:41:03 PM
  • SparklePony: As I don't post very often, I just wanted to say hello to everyone <3  :)
    March 25, 2012, 03:31:27 PM
  • Chime: and hoping the members aren't "n"embers...  LOL
    March 17, 2012, 07:40:11 PM
  • Chime: welcome...  from the typo queen...lol
    March 17, 2012, 07:04:18 PM
  • CZBZ: Lol! Chime! THank You!!!
    March 16, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
  • Chime: ps - the pic there, and the qoute are excellent!!
    March 12, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
  • Chime: CZBZ - the welcome thread has a typo on "Members... Cheers
    March 12, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
  • Chime: ooops - hit enter when I shouldn'ta
    March 12, 2012, 08:23:17 PM
  • Chime: = what?
    March 12, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
  • Chime: ok - I am technologically challenged... alaterial: chime...
    March 12, 2012, 08:21:50 PM
  • alatariel: chime
    March 10, 2012, 07:18:37 PM
  • CZBZ: Good Monday Morning All!
    January 16, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
  • CZBZ: I have sent you an email, Farfalla!
    December 27, 2011, 11:31:53 AM
  • farfalla: I've only posted 2 post but can't even find them and have no idea if they even got reply.
    December 22, 2011, 05:44:06 PM
  • farfalla: being new I can't find this answer, there's just so much to look at, it feels a little overwhelming. Is there a way to have posts that a person has posted to have email notifiication that there is a response to a post?
    December 22, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
  • notakennedy: Dear all here at WoN, I am hoping you all have a lovley Christmas and New Year with your loved ones, it should be a time of healing and family, so as much as possible, look after yourselves and your children and be safe! It'll be warm here downunder for Christmas, to those of you where it is winter, stay warm and well!
    December 22, 2011, 01:54:35 PM
  • CZBZ: The holidays are a rough. Hope everyone is hanging in there okay!
    December 12, 2011, 12:57:40 PM
  • CZBZ: For everyone's comfort level: I do NOT have access to anyone's password.
    December 05, 2011, 02:08:43 PM
  • CZBZ: Follow the prompt when you're logging in asking if you have lost your password.
    December 05, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
  • loved2much: I forgot my password here when I went to change it, it asked for my old one and how do I get it sent to my email???
    November 28, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
  • loved2much: Hey I'm glad I came here when I was broadsided with the phone call last week.  I had an amazing Joni Mitchell concert last night and performed with many fabulous women musicians.  I am so fortunate to have blessings like this in my life that heal and renew me.
    November 08, 2011, 10:12:54 AM
  • CZBZ: I'm glad to hear that you're okay...being alone isn't nearly so bad as when you are alone together.  =tongue2=
    November 03, 2011, 10:50:53 PM
  • CZBZ: Hi there Loved2Much!
    November 03, 2011, 10:49:43 PM
  • loved2much: I'm alone and the season is changing but I am all right.
    November 03, 2011, 09:32:05 PM
  • loved2much: I'm anybody tonight
    November 03, 2011, 09:31:22 PM
  • loved2much: After 6 months he calls me to tell me that he never cheated with another woman and yes when I told him to get his shite out of my home because I was tired of supporting him and is abuse he connects with one of his students a property manager that now he has a girl friend with two kids and he hopes I find love again..  I told him to enjoy his life. and thanks for calling me.
    November 03, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
  • CZBZ: Two weeks since anybody 'shouted'...Hello! Anybody out there?
    November 03, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
  • CZBZ: Good for you! Never give up on yourself, right? Just give up on the N!!
    October 11, 2011, 01:59:13 PM
  • loved2much: I'm home from Nashville.  I gave myself permission to pursue my dreams and it was FUN.
    October 10, 2011, 10:33:34 PM
  • too_many: Yay - I'm so glad! I was wondering if I should write that the characters have developed a lot from the pilot (which I had just rewatched) :)
    October 05, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
  • CZBZ: Love this series! I'm catching up on prior episodes so I can watch this show on TV. Thanks a million for the recommendation!
    October 05, 2011, 01:43:17 PM
  • CZBZ: Thanks, too_many! I'll put it in my instant queu!
    October 03, 2011, 02:09:07 PM
  • too_many: CZ - Parenthood's up on instant Netlix now :) (has the Asperger's character)
    October 02, 2011, 07:52:44 PM
  • SydneyFireworks: HI MUMummy - how about you post a message in the Grand Hall so we can try to help you.  ((((Hugs)))
    September 16, 2011, 10:00:15 PM
  • mixedupmummy: I had his baby three years ago and moved to an isolated island miles away from him.  He's taking me to court to "teach me a lesson" and "bleed me dry".... I am terrified of losing my baby, but most immediately I am so worried I won't be able to cope.
    September 16, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
  • mixedupmummy: Help!  I've not been on for ages and the N has come back into my life with a vengeance!!!
    September 16, 2011, 07:42:11 PM
  • Imogene: 84 days of 100+ degree weather, now.  I can't take much more of this.  Half the trees in the city are going to die.
    September 15, 2011, 02:01:24 PM
  • Legs: I got to turn off the air con for the first time since February. I went for a walk and had to come back home and put on long sleeves!
    September 09, 2011, 03:45:27 PM
  • betterdays: Our cold front took temps from 105 with humidity, down to 95- 100.  Brrr, I need my snow boots now!
    September 05, 2011, 01:18:12 PM
  • Imogene: No kidding.  It's been 79 days of 100+ weather, some one told me.  Can that be true?  If so, it is just plain wrong.
    September 04, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
  • talia: Haha...Yes, Imogene! can't wait to start with walking outdoors again. I so need to!
    September 04, 2011, 02:55:20 PM
  • Imogene: I know!  Doesn't it feel GREAT!
    September 04, 2011, 12:41:20 PM
  • talia: Ecstatic here! Cool front moving thru North TX...Yippee!!
    September 04, 2011, 12:15:42 PM
  • CZBZ: Sunday morning and the sun is shining. How's everyone?
    September 04, 2011, 10:19:52 AM
  • CZBZ: ha! I love BRACKETS! Thank you!
    August 26, 2011, 03:30:11 PM
  • tango3: ((((((((())))))))
    August 26, 2011, 10:00:57 AM

* Calendar

May 2012
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 [22] 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

No calendar events were found.

* Board Statistics

  • stats Total Members: 889
  • stats Total Posts: 69326
  • stats Total Topics: 9944
  • stats Total Categories: 15
  • stats Total Boards: 43
  • stats Most Online: 152

* Quick Search



* Inside the Castle


Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down

Author Topic: God wants someone to read this...  (Read 1051 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Legs

  • Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290

Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2011, 10:23:00 AM »
I was just saying I was pretty sure God didn't want to hear me griping about all the stuff I gripe about ....yes, a reference to the subject line.

In fact, I am pretty sure NO ONE wants to hear me griping about any of it!

Legs
"Is thems the thoughts of cows?"

LettingGo

  • Guest
Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2011, 11:20:31 AM »
Quote
I contacted my attny yesterday to let him know. There was NO way that I would NOT tell him. I did not feel any pressure to cover for the Ex.
I think you made the right choice.

20 years ago when my Nsis #2 and I first went NC w/the Momster, even though our Grandmother (the Momster's mom) never got along w/her own Daughter, she felt sorry for her because she would project her own longing to be w/her grand kids to the Momster, and we tried to tell her "you are not the same as her". I am sure the Momster played my Grandmother like a fiddle.

Don't underestimate exMiL's devotion to her child. Good People are known to bad things when they are trying to protect the ones they love. Is your lawyer going to Summon her to testify against the Nbirthgiver?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out w/two Ns against each other. Will the ex cover for her or hang her?

Even when the Law doesn't support us we know that the Lord does.

Legs, gripe away! Ns & Ps are evil and God hates evil too. The choice to be Helpful or Harmful is so easy, unless you are a N who enjoys hurting others. Never feel bad about hating a N -- God doesn't.

Offline ILoveMyHnD

  • Survivor
  • **
  • Posts: 55

Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2011, 11:17:51 PM »
@ Legs......I agree with lettingGo....You have freedom to heal and if it means expressing yourself then go right ahead....Im sorry that I didnt understand what you meant by that....thanks for clearing that up.

@ LettingGo....I recived THE call tonight from the ex telling me that its my fault because I told my attorney. He said he's looking at 30days in jail for contempt. He said it wouldnt have happened if I had not told my attorney. He cont'd to tell me that he would take our daughter around whoever he wanted...and when I ended the conversation and told him bye, he called back, left a message saying that I was being spiteful and it was my bad character that was allowing me to act this way. no surprise...

typical narcissist stuff....its too bad that they dont know that they are their own worst enemies...They're mental con-artists!!

LettingGo

  • Guest
Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2011, 10:54:51 AM »
He cont'd to tell me that he would take our daughter around whoever he wanted..

ILoveMyHnD, if you had any doubt the ex was a N -- well there is no doubt is there. I hope he said that on the Message he left to show that he has no Repect for the Court, and continues to be in contempt, by saying he will take DD around whom ever he wants to. Just goes to show ya just how Stupid these Ns really are. Some may have a lot of info in their head, but certainly no wisdom. A Smart Person would at least pretend to have Regret or Remorse, and make a play for your Empathy to go to court on his behalf, but not a N. His own Pathology hangs him. Report this to your lawyer. I am praying that the N will do jail time. The lawyer must show continued contempt -- that is what hung the Momster. At first the Judge was giving the Momster the benefit of the doubt. Poor little ol lady. Then she failed to do what the Cout Ordered and the Judge ordered in my Aunt's favor.

Is the lawyer going after the Nbirthgiver? She is the one who is in Contempt too.

Offline ILoveMyHnD

  • Survivor
  • **
  • Posts: 55

Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2011, 11:05:56 AM »
LettingGo,

hahahahaha.....NO.

LettingGo....youre probably going to tell me to get a  new attorney.

We met with him for the first time today since the exN was in contempt. My attorney has taken the side of the exN and says that he was not in contempt. He says that a judge would laugh at the accusation and it would discredit us. He says that a judge would say "granma just wanted to give her some cupcakes and an easter gift" just like any other granma would want to do. The attny told me that he flat out would NOT press for these charges. He said that it would take multiple times of this happening before anything could be done about it. I did tell him that the exN said he would take her around whoever he wanted to etc.. My attny did not seem concerned about it. As a matter of a fact he questioned why I did not make contact with my mother and I told him it wasnt going to happen. I told him that its NOT the right thing  to do and he asked me numerous times "who said so"....I repeatedly told him that I know in my heart that it is not the right thing to do. He then asked me what does the bible say about how many times to forgive. I told him 7 times 70....and then my husband proceeded to tell him that forgiveness and having a relationship with someone are 2 different things. I reminded him that simply visiting with my Nbirthergiver would not be enough for her that she would insist on alone time. He said "whats wrong with telling her no?".....HAHAHAHAHAHA welcome to the world of not understanding Narcissist Mr Genius Attorney with your perfect little normal life and family. I told him that he hasnt experienced what I have with her and Im not doing it. He said he wouldnt twist my wrist, but that I needed to know that it was the RIGHT thing to do to make the contact with her. He told me that he didnt think that he could do for me what I wanted done...and i thought he was going to drop the case. He didnt though...he continued to tell me that I need to cooperate with the Nex and be civil. He said that we will bend over backwards over and over for the Nex even if he isnt cooperating. Basically...i feel that my attorney doesnt beleive me about most of the truth I have presented. I honestly dont think that any attorney wouldnt because the KON if so  IMMENSELY AND GROSSLY messed up that it just works out that way for the N's.....Haha...lettingGo...youll get a kick out of this. My attorny has SUCH sympathy for the Nfather…He ended our conversation with “just think about your father”…..I think he believes there is something wrong with Nbirthgiver….But look at how long I was in denial about Nfather….It would be a pure act of God for my attorney to see that Nfather is a BIG contributor to the problem. OH well….I will never give up on my daughters welfare, But I throw the towel in for trying to convince my attorney that my Nparents are crazy.

Im so thankful that I know God has my back and that as long as I do what he wants that my daughter and I will be okay because YOU CANNOT RELY ON OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND or help you. I think it would take finding an attorney who was raised by and involved with narcissists to understand….Im keeping my faith in God alone. Maybe that is the lesson to be learned from all this.

LettingGo

  • Guest
Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2011, 12:19:51 PM »
 =huggers= Ouch! I know that hurts when your attorney is no longer on your side. Been There. Unfortunately our case was sealed so I can't give details, but the other side was at fault. Our injuries were sustained from a Car Accident by their client crashing into us. Their client slammed into us, but because the client was connected to a Huge Organization our attorney got scared and turned on us, allowed the other side to intimidate us into settling out of Court, which barely covered our medical costs & the insurance did not replace the quality of car we had, because it was totaled out, we got the Blue Book value which was not enough money to replace the same quality we once had. The Judge was also intimidated by the Organization that was behind the Defendant, tied our attorneys hands, yet allowed the other side to falsly accuse us of leaving the scene of the accident and crashing our car into a wall or something to create the damage, because their client said it was not there at the scene of the crash, it was he lied. We did not see the front of his car because he automatically took charge told us to follow him and he pulled in front of us. Said because there was no broken bones or blood that we did not have to call anyone. We were so trusting because of the status this person had and what Organization he was from that we trusted him and believed him that we didn't have to call the Police (again because this person is from a certain Organization that People completly trust that he would be telling us the Truth and would not lie about the law  =msn cool= .  It was horrible. Our Attorney who came from a Law Firm that had a Good Rep. turned out to be a wimp. He did his cost and analysis and to him taking on the Judge, and the Organization behind the Defendant was not worth it to him, it would cost him too much Professionally and Politically. However, the difference between this attorney and the one you have is that he said to us it is your choice to settle, or go for it knowing that if the judge awards you w/one penny less than what they offered you that you could be liable for having to pay for their court costs, but if you think we can win, which we clearly will win the case, but I am don't know how much more the Judge will award, but I am with ya and I will do my best to fight for ya. My DH and I could not afford or risk getting a settlement that would be less than what the other side offered and than have to pay all their VERY expensive Court Costs, so out of fear and intimidation we settled. Had I done that again. I would go for it and tell the Judge the other side said that if you award us w/one penny less we have to pay for their Expensive Fees, so we are trusting you that you will make sure the Law doesn't allow the other side to re-Victimize us. That was years ago. Now DH has to take a Goliath of a Client to court because he refuses to pay for the Logo aka Corporate Identity that my DH created for him almost a year ago, yet they continue to use the Logo as if they own it. Court Battles are no fun, but they are necessary and you must make sure that everyone on your in army is fighting for ya not against ya.

You are SO right about me saying to get another attorney. Trust your instuition. Talk w/your DH and pray about it. Does this attorney know your Parents? Has he had prior contact w/them before he took on your case? Something does not feel right to me about your Attorney & Parents connection. It could be that the Attorney is N-chanted by them and since this is not a Big Money case it is no longer worth it to him to stick around and fight it out.

I would find another attorney. One that knows that little ol grannys pass out toxic cupcakes. She might give DD a Easter basket but a hidden bomb is attached for you, ILoveMyHnD (her own D). People are biased. They look at our situation aka The KoN through their own tainted glasses of how their life is and if they had a loving Mom they can't imagine anyone else's being Toxic. Still given our own biases, a Smart & Seasoned Attorney knows how to set his/her own biases aside, believe & trust his/her client's situation is different then his/her own personal experiences, believe what their client has said about a Toxic Parent in the disguise of a little ol cupcake providing Granny. Attorneys can offer their opinion, such as I would not take this issue of Contempt of Court to the judge, because it may look bad on you (explain how), but it is your choice because both ex and granny are in Contempt and I will fight for what you want. Your Attorney did not say that. He became an Enabler, and gave you the Guilt Trip. Made you feel that you were not doing the "Right Thing" by the ex or poor little granny when they are the ones who clearly are in Contempt of the Law. He clearly does not see or respect what you are going through & is fighting against you instead of for you. When you have someone fighting for you they must be on your side. They must prepare you for the Risks involved, but that is not what he is doing. He is making you feel bad when the other side is clearly breaking the court order, that is for ex & granny's attorney to try to do to you. The most powerful tactic against one's enemy is not a frontal, side, or back assault, but an assault from within. Think of the Trojan Horse, that is what this Attorney is for you.

Both ex and Nbirthgiver are in Contempt. A skilled Attorney can point that out even to a Judge that is N-chanted by a Easter basket & cupcake giving granny. Contempt is Contempt cupcakes or not.  =msn wink= The Attorney is also wrong about having you bend over backwards  =sick= for the ex. The flip side of that is, your Attorney says just keep track of all the times ex and granny are in Contempt, make a pile, that might sound good, but they other side could say and N-chant the Judge that Why should the Court take your complaints serious if you never did. You must take the first case to court and see what that Judge says. If the Judge is N-chanted, then you can make a pile, then go back again, saying that the previous Judge let them get away w/Contempt so that is why you waited to make a pile. It is one thing if there was No Court Order Prohibiting the ex to allow granny contact w/DD and she just came over "out of the kindness of her heart". Sometimes you have to remind the Court this is NOT a Normal Situation and she is not a Normal Person, NOT a Normal Granny, don't let her deception fool you, hence the Court Order forbidding contact. A skilled attorney can do this for ya. Judges do not like to igore another Judge's Court Order, but sometimes they need a Friendly Reminder, especially when Toxic Cupcake Granny are involved. They may just get a slap on the wrist, instead of fine or jail time, but it will be recorded that both the ex and the toxic cupcake giving granny are in Contempt of Law and must adhere or else and the Judge will state that they will get a stronger consequence which is usually the max the law states, because it is one thing to have another Judge's orders be ignored and made a fool out of but they are going to expect that their Mercy will be appreciated by the Offenders and when it is not, the gavel comes down hard.

The Guilt Trip, the we are going to let them walk all over us and we are going to bend over backwards for them, and ESPECIALLY the statement of "He told me that he didnt think that he could do for me what I wanted done... " all that is a Huge Red Flag  =red flag= that he CAN NOT do for you what you need done. So I guess you could say that God made him speak the Truth to you, he can't do what you need done, and he can't fight for you. He does not believe in your cause or your case, so cut him loose. What he did to you is an Old Car Salesman trick, gently pull something away and the person will reach out to grap it. Nboyfriends or girlfriend also use this Toxic Trick, maybe I am not the right person for you, maybe we should break up? They are gambeling that you will be so despirate that you will cling on to them and do what they want and continue to put up with their toxic cr@p, because they are playing into your fear of having a Toxic Boyfriend is better than No Boyfriend. They get ya jumping through their hoops and chasing after them. It is analogous to the fish jumping into the fisherman's boat. With this attorney in your boat, he is sinking it for ya. Throw him overboard! Seriously it is one thing to fight the ex and granny, but to fight your own attorney especially when there is a Court Order, that is not right, he is your Kryptonite -- Superwoman you need to get rid of him! Keeping him is going to send you backwards. You got the Court Order, ex and granny are in Contempt and your Attorney should be taking this and moving forwards instead of ignoring it and telling you that you are a Bad Christian -- stupid jerk! This is an old familiar pattern isn't it? Those that should be on your side protecting you are turning against you. This is the pattern of the KoN, putting up with People not supporting us and turning against us in overt and covert ways, we think this is Normal because it is Familiar, but it is not. Why do the Rich get Richer? Because they have attorneys who fight for them not against them. They full support and believe their client, even when the client is clearly in the wrong, they will do their very best to make sure their Nclient looks like a Saint to the rest of the World.

Before kicking him to the curve, as your DH said that Forgiveness does not mean continued Relationship. You can also inform the "know it all" attorney that he is only 1/2 informed about Forgiving 7x70 -- which means he is completely wrong.  =msn wink= This concept is applied to Normal People who have empathy, regret, remorse and repentance.  =reading= have him do his homework on Repentance -- it is a Requirement for Forgiveness. We are told to Forgive like Christ. What is the first step to our Salvation? Repentance. Recognizing we did something wrong, we are not perfect, and turning away from it and turning towards Christ. Realizing that we are not God. We make mistakes and we need to Change, Progression not Perfection. God knows our heart and knows if we are remorseful or not. Ns can BS us but not GOD. God does NOT forgive an Unrepentant Person/Sinner and neither are we to do that either.  =tut tut= I hate when People, like this Attorney, twist Scripture, God's word, to their agenda. This is why we need to have Wisdom about God's Word and know what is said and what is not said. When your own attorney thinks bad of you, "Not doing the Right Thing Not being a Good Christian" that is a sign to cut him loose and find a person who understands how Ns operate, how they can come in the disguise of Easter Basket & Cupcake giving Grannys. Your Attorney has done the Cost Analysis and he is not getting anything from you, no big money to be won, he sees his Colleagues making the Big Bucks and he thinks your case is a waste of time, but he can't drop you or it looks bad on him, plus I don't know if he can legally do that, so instead he tells you he can't do what you want, doesn't support your case, and makes your relationship w/him adversarial that way you can free him up to find another case that will offer him more money, more cost effective for him. If you had MORE money for him, if you were paying him Beverly Hills/Hollywood Money I bet he would know how to Sing & Dance to another tune (I am thinking about the movie Chicago) where the skilled Attorney knew what to do and say to present his client in the best light. It should be very easy for your Attorney, because you didn't shoot anyone, you are not on defense, but the Ns are because they are in Contempt. Your Attorney needs to be skilled at removing the mask or at least just stick to the simple facts, they are in Contempt and are breaking the law, thus deserve No Visitation for granny or ex because he said he does not value the law, has no respect for it, has contempt for it and will ignore and disobey it and take DD around anyone he wants thus he can not be trusted to do what is in his DD best interest if he can't adhere to a very simple Court Order. The ex & granny are deceptive liars who say they respect the Law when their behavior shows that they do not by being in Contempt of it. If your Attorney did his job, at the very least they will be warned that this could happen if he continues to be in Contempt and show Blatant Disrespect for the Judges & the Law. Your Attorney does not have to put on a HUGE Performance, just state the facts and do his job.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFDvMP0zayk[/youtube]


But it is not worth it to him, so he has no motivation to fight for ya. In the Chicago case, do you see how he fights for her? Society wanted to hang her, but her Attorney showed her in another light, any imperfections she had he ironed them out for her, reminded & kept everyone focused on who the Real Bad Person was (who she shot) and got everyone to support her and rule in her favor. Your Attorney is not doing that -- he is doing the Opposite of that. He is making you into the Defendant, like you are doing something wrong, by showing that ex & granny are in Contempt. They are the ones who did Wrong and are in the Wrong NOT you. You are not Guilty they are. Your Attorney is being a Puppet for them who is N-chanted and fighting against you. He has turned you into the Defendant, when he should be after the Wrong doers the real Defendants and showed by focused on what they did Wrong. If you find you are defending yourself than you are losing the Battle, you need someone who will fight for and w/you to redirect and keep the focus on the Ns, redirecting is key when it comes to Ns. Do not defend anything, just redirect, by defending you create doubt in your character and give the benefit to the Ns, so don't fall for that trick and redirect. If a friend who has no law degree can do a better job at being your Attorney and fighting for ya, then that is another Huge Red Flag and you should get another Attorney.  =msn wink=

Find someone that is going to fight for ya, who has experience w/deceptive Ns and does not get N-chanted by them. Sure I get why he can't see NF for who he is, as you know that takes time, and most Victims can't see their Enabling Parent as a N either, or their Damaged Siblings as Ns as in my case. Did NF come over w/Nbirthgiver to the ex's house? Was he physically present supporting her being in Contempt of the Law or did he stay home?

That is not the mainpoint and I know you know that, it only goes to show he is N-chanted by all 3 of the Ns. But the other two who are in Contempt -- there is no excuse for that. This attorney should be more skilled than that and again the Guilt Trip, Victim Blaming, bend over backwards, "I can't do what you want" stuff are Huge Red Flags he is not on your side and is not going to fight for you.  =msn tulip wilted=

Pray about what I have said, I know you feel it in your Spirit that this Attorney is not doing his job (which is bad enough), but what is even WORSE -- he is actually fighting against you. It is one thing to say the Judge is not going to hold up the Court Order and not going to find them in Contempt, but it is worse that he thinks you are being a Bad Person, "not doing the right thing". YUCK! You and your DH can find someone else who can do a better job. I will pray that the Great Spirit will direct your path to a very skilled attorney who will believe in your case and your cause and can get the Court to reinforce its own Law, and will have the skills to have the Judge focus on the Law and the be N-chanted by the Ns. Since granny and ex are toxic Ns I would also think about moving and starting a New Life far away from them. Distance is great because it prevents contact, plus it would be fantastic to have a fresh new start. I understand that it is hard in this Depression we are all trying to get through, but I would pray about it. It would be worth it to be Free from these Ns. If ex wasn't around, then granny can't use him to get to DD. Creating Distance is the best Offense you can have against Ns.  =msn wink=
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 02:43:02 PM by LettingGo »

Offline ILoveMyHnD

  • Survivor
  • **
  • Posts: 55

Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2011, 07:56:42 PM »
WOW lettingGo...that was absolutely amazing. I will be consulting with my husband to pray about this with me. Thank you so much.

No, Nfather was not there with Nbirthgiver. I venture to say that he doesnt know she went. They dont live together...you remember, their wonderful marriage. :)

LettingGo

  • Guest
Re: God wants someone to read this...
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2011, 09:20:06 PM »
ILoveMyHnD, please have DH read this thread since it pertains to his life too. And since the threads are open to the public you are not breaking any rule.

I felt it in my Spirit that NF did not go with Nbirthgiver, I do remember their marriage arrangement, but my Friend do not give NF the benefit of the doubt of not knowing, consider this is more than an equal amount of chance more than 50-50 that he in fact did know that Nbirithgiver went to ex's house -- in fact I would take that bet if I was a beting person considering they have been working together recently against you. It is very much like Nbirthgiver to brag to NF that she is going to igore the Court Order, no one is going to stop her from seeing HER grandchild on Easter. Whether or not NF tried to warn her to stop her or if he encouraged her to go is something the Great Spirit will have to tell ya. I have a very strong feeling that he knew, just don't know if he encouraged her or not. Sure I could be wrong about him knowing. I feel like he knew, but did not go because he did not want to support her in breaking the Court Order. Maybe that is my hope that he is a lower level N and some day will no longer be N-chanted by her like my MIL was w/my FIL she wasn't a N just a damaged & passive wife, then Letting Go came into her Life, started standing up to the nFIL, and eventually after we went NC due to nFIL's behavior she stepped up because she was not going to lose her Son over a Nhusband. Even my NFIL was changed to a nFIL so I have hope for your NF, but not until he makes some serious changes and can see the Nbirithgiver for who she really is and ONLY after NF does that and can no longer stand to be around Nbirithgiver, then like the Judds did get some Professional Help to heal your and NF relationship. He needs to have true remorse before you even go there, so don't put the cart before the horse. You have only recently been NC w/NF so it might take awhile for him to realize what he has lost by continuing to be in love w/Nbirithgiver. You don't support a N if you don't love them as you have come to realize. Just want to send you some Hope, but you don't act on it until GOD has shown you that NF has repented and changed and has remorse and then you get Professional Help, test it out start w/ a tiny bit of trust and build from there. But the time is not now to do all that, but I do Hope that some day there will come a time. The Judd's Episode along w/my experience w/nFIL shows me that with lower level Ns change at least a little bit of change as in modified behavior, not setting out to hurt you, and even a little respect & care is possible from lower level Ns. What God is teaching me is when I don't know what to do, do nothing and wait. Do nothing about NF and wait for him to start building his side of the bridge, then the two of you get Professional Help to complete it in the right time, which I hope and pray will happen someday. I pray you understand what I am trying to say about having Hope but waiting until the time is right and NF has true remorse for fighting w/Nbirithgiver against you.
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
 


Thanks for visiting!