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Offline overwhelmed

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everyone send "egg don't let us down" vibes....
« on: February 08, 2012, 04:01:37 PM »
So N is on a 5 day trip, with a group of all guys, to Costa Rico.  It's his business partners 40th birthday bash where they rented this house, over 10,000 square feet, have a chef, a driver, you get it.  My attorney informed me, as I gave yet another example of how he is lying about his monthly income and more.  In any event, he proceeded to tell me that prostitution is legal there and what an all round party area it is and that although, if going with a date or as a family, that may not be what you're seeking but, with a group of all men for a birthday, it's clear they are there for the party scene.  Of course, to my knowledge, all the men in the group are married, I suppose here on WON, we know that doesn't mean that you'd think.

So I considered doing the pi route....not that I care if he is with 100 women at one time, I do not.  My hope would be aimed toward his drinking since he's court ordered to abstain.  When he doesn't, and he won't, it will be a total of 3 proof positive times, within the past 4 weeks, he's done so and done so well.  However, I always doubt myself when I do this, seeing how there is money involved (my own) that he'll lay low and disappoint me.  I think 3 times in a row, so close together, is enough to prove he hasn't stopped and it isn't just a one time mess up.  Plus, who knows what type of lie he told his probation officer as to why he wouldn't be able to report if his number is called, if he told him anything at all.  If he didn't and his number is called, he'll have to make up something as to why he didn't show up and I doubt he'll say he was at a party fest.  So lets hope, he paints it up, in alcoholic egg style, playing Mr. Millionaire come drink 3.

But the next part of this post is about something else.  When my attorney told me about prostitution being legal there, I thought right away, "I'm sure he's going to party but no, he wouldn't do that, can't see it."  Yet, just because I can't see it doesn't mean it isn't so.  I recall on one of his Vegas trips, him telling me about his father having three of them in their suite until all hours keep9ing them up while  they were trying to sleep.  I was appalled and he laughed in a way that agreed.  Looking back, I'm laughing because well.....that is N style, put it on someone else.  I laughed at how I thought, "no, he wouldn't do that...."  How the heck would I know what he would or wouldn't do?  PI told me although it is legal, underage, it is not.  N used to make jokes about younger girls.....this is just off the top of my head.  I shudder at the thought and certainly hope not because then, I'd seriously worry about my own D, whom I've spoke of here that I find his affection towards his kids to be odd and uncomfortable by anything I've ever seen.  Not implying he's ever done anything.  I think this is more about faking....combined with not having any boundaries.  To him, he's faking father affection without awareness it changes and grows as a child does and is different from that of an intimate partner.  However, if he engaged in sexual activity with a girl underage, heck...even 18 of legal age, I'd worry that the potential is bigger than I ever thought.  I remember one time, he was drunk and our d was 3, resting her head on my shoulder as I rocked her.....N leaned down to kiss me and then kiss my neck but, he ended up with his tongue in our d's ear (yes, is gross and sounds gross to type)....he didn't pull away like, "whoops...."  he didn't notice.  Or so this is how it appeared to me due to his drunken stoop-er.  Point being, with alcohol involved, I'd worry about it heavily.

That's all hypothetical....maybe he won't engage in that activity at all.  And I'd certainly be shocked if he did....but I have no idea why.  Clearly, one thing I've learned is, I've no idea what he is capable of and I'm certain I do not know that half of it....that, I think I can count on.

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Re: everyone send "egg don't let us down" vibes....
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 05:21:51 PM »
Its a real ugly journey of discovery with these jerks isn`t it?

At first we struggle to accept the fact that just maybe they are BIG FAT LIARS....and when we have made that quantum leap...they are not what they seem...suddenly ANYTHING is possible. And we wouldn`t be at all surprised it they were actually in Costa Rico to bed the local wildlife.  =msn shocked=

Egg is shudderingly awful. At this point in his life WHY is he swinging his arms and legs around when any normal person would be trying to behave angellically. But oh no...he doesn`t need to. Because he is an egg. And they are SPECIAL. They are indestructable. Makes you want to splat him with a ten ton weight like a cartoon doesn`t it? Dodge that scumbag.

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Re: everyone send "egg don't let us down" vibes....
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 06:03:52 PM »
When my attorney told me about prostitution being legal there, I thought right away, "I'm sure he's going to party but no, he wouldn't do that, can't see it."  Yet, just because I can't see it doesn't mean it isn't so.  I recall on one of his Vegas trips, him telling me about his father having three of them in their suite until all hours keep9ing them up while  they were trying to sleep.  I was appalled and he laughed in a way that agreed.  Looking back, I'm laughing because well.....that is N style, put it on someone else.  I laughed at how I thought, "no, he wouldn't do that...."

When I read your post my first thought was "Isn't it odd."  As in isn't it odd that we want to believe them even when the lies are so outrageous and the proof looking us right in the face?  It's as though they keep telling more and more outrageous lies in order to test the limits of our belief.

I didn't want to believe that the Hobbit would do anything either.  Even when he stopped over in Manila with a group of men coming back from the US.  I mean, who stops over in Manila?  There really is only one reason that I can think of.  There are a list of known places on Planet Earth that make good revenue off the sex trade and to go with a group of men to any one of these places doesn't need any further investigation. We all know at least some of them and Manila is on the list.  They are there for the easy sex and the alcohol.  End of story.

Over the years the Hobbit arrived home with women's underwear in his luggage (bra, scarf) and a newly purchased packet of condoms, plus his odd stopovers in places like Manila.  And still I thought "Oh, he wouldn't..."  But of course he would.  He told me so when we divorced.  While he's never admitted to actually doing anything because I think he wants to keep the lie going with the remaining family members who believe him, he told me that he wouldn't have said no if a woman wanted him.  What the...!?! 

I wish it hadn't destroyed my trust in all men.  Unfortunately I now think that all men lie, that all men would have easy sex if they thought they could get away with it and there were no consequences. 

As for the PI, is it really worth your time, money and energy?  WIll it add anything more substantial to the burden of proof?  And if you are going with Plan B as on another thread, to open up the lines of communication about a possible reconciliation, is it worth the risk of discovery if he gets a hint that he is being followed? 

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Re: everyone send "egg don't let us down" vibes....
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 10:08:42 PM »
Does his probation officer know he is out of the country?  He isn't supposed to leave the county without giving notice.. and getting written permission to leave the country.

I think I would pass this information on to his probation officer... so they can call his number the moment he arrives at the airport.

The journey to discovery is truly ugly but also cathartic... especially when we view without those N tainted glasses we accept from the N.  You know the one's we can't see just how disordered they truly are...

Hugs,

RB
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Re: everyone send "egg don't let us down" vibes....
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 05:45:41 AM »
My question is the same as RB's...
Mental wounds still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
- Ozzy

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Re: everyone send "egg don't let us down" vibes....
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 02:59:04 PM »
sending the anti-egg vibes!  =chicken2=

hang in there!
Chime
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